Today we are welcoming Sarah Kernochan to Flight of the Dragon. Sarah has won two Academy Awards for her
documentaries Marjoe and Thoth. As a screenwriter, she has
written many films, among them Nine and ½
Weeks, Impromptu, and What Lies Beneath; she both wrote and
directed the film All I Wanna Do as
well. Jane Was Here is her second
novel after 1977’s Dry Hustle. At
present she is writing a memoir of her encounters with ghosts in serial form on
her blog. She lives in New York with her husband, playwright James Lapine;
daughter Phoebe Lapine is a food writer.
Well, that
officially makes you the only person I know to have ever won an Academy Award
for anything. You’re also the only person I know to have written a film that
actually screened in a mainstream cinema. And you’ve done both! I am officially
impressed. I am not easily impressed. Uh, so, on that note, welcome and thanks
for joining us today! But we’re not here to talk about your screenwriting
prowess, which is evidently considerable, but to talk about your latest book, Jane Was Here. Can you tell us what genre is your book?
I tend to read “literature” and not popular fiction. Incredibly, I had
no awareness of subgenres like paranormal romance while I was writing Jane Was Here. I’m a believer in reincarnation, which I used as both a message and
literary device in the story: someone committed a crime in 1853. Both the
victim and the suspects have been reincarnated to the present day, with no
memory of their connection, until the victim starts to remember… When it was
due to be published, I had to figure out what family my child belonged to. It
seemed she had multiple parentage and I would have to use a lot of hyphens.
Finally, to simplify things, I decided Jane was a
paranormal-suspense-horror-fantasy-thriller. You can see how good I am at this.
Not bad, just
a typical creative type. They don’t like black and white answers. Unlike little
lawyer me! Do you have a specific writing style?
Style was the first thing I developed before anything else, when I had
just started writing in my teens. I was influenced by iconoclasts like Donald
Barthelme, and by Faulkner's rhapsodic sentences without punctuation.
Consequently my early work was pretty pretentious. However, my approach has
always remained the same: to maintain a musical flow of language. For example,
if the moment is slow and deeply felt, I will bring in poetic language. If it’s
frantic action, I’ll design a rush of words or staccato bursts. Through it all,
a reader should be able to ride along without being aware of the current. Then
look up and realize they’ve reached the open sea.
We are all a
bit pretentious and pompous when we start out. It comes from trying too hard, I
think, or our perceptions of what a writer should sound like – in those early days, before we start
learning about things like ‘voice’. What was the hardest part of writing your
book?
Writing is kind of easy for me, I hate to say it. Maybe because I’ve
been doing it so long. It only gets hard when I’m unwittingly headed down the
wrong path and I haven’t faced it yet – my bad choices gum up the works until
the car breaks down entirely.
Writing is easy. Editing is hard! Well, at least, it
is for me. Did you learn anything from writing your book and, if so, what was
it?
I learned from readers’ feedback that a lot of people can’t go forward
without a strongly sympathetic character. I tend to create edgier characters
with their dark parts hanging out. In the future I think I’ll make more of a
conscious attempt to giving them someone to love. I do want them to continue
reading, after all.
Absolutely, if
the reader can’t empathise with a character, you’re more likely to lose them.
My protagonist is an assassin, so I sympathise – but I’ve tried very hard to
make her likeable, up to and including a recent workshop on ‘dark heroes’. Or
heroines in this case. Is there a message in your novel that you want readers
to grasp?
I took up the big question “Why me?” that humans so often ask when
suffering. Why did that have to happen? What did I ever do to deserve this? I
designed a karmic puzzle in Jane Was Here that showed heaven’s design as
perfect: you do deserve what happens
to you because of what you did in another lifetime. You don’t understand your
fate because you were born without any memory of your prior deeds. You aren’t
meant to understand or to remember. Those studies take place in the realm
between lives.
Wow, way
deeper than me. I’d just shrug and say ‘there is no why’. Yeah, don’t come to
me if you want counselling! Hey, at least I’m honest… If you had to choose,
which writer would you consider a mentor?
My first and only mentor was Grace Paley. She was my first writing
teacher (at Columbia General Studies in New York) and I was one of her first
students. She taught me how to pay attention to people around me, listen, even
pursue. Grace focused most of her stories on a specific neighborhood, which she
rendered to the tiniest detail. My neighborhood wasn’t very interesting
(Connecticut suburb – Cheever had already been there anyway) so I went further
afield, scarfing up people’s stories and sometimes going along for the ride. I
collected experiences instead of hiding indoors. Grace taught me that.
Hmmm…. So many
writers are people watchers. It worries me sometimes, because I’m not. Maybe
that’s OK, because I’m dragon-watching instead! Are you reading something now?
My great aunt Anna De Koven, who was a journalist, published a book
called A Cloud of Witnesses in 1920.
You can find it in Google books. She reports her conversations with her dead
sister through a medium over the course of a year. The beginning’s pretty starchy
but once the dialogue gets rolling between the two sisters it’s really
fascinating. You learn a lot about the education and evolution of souls in the
afterlife. And it matches so many other accounts related by people under
hypnosis who remember that ethereal phase before they were reborn.
That must be very personal for you. And speaking of which, on to some
more personal questions. In addition to writing, do you have a day job as well?
I’ve been a screenwriter since the early 80’s.
Well, that’s
kind of still writing. Lucky you! If you were an animal what kind would you be?
Can I have three? Because I have three animal spirit guides: rabbit,
snake, and crane. That about sums me up.
You can have as many as you like. I’ll settle for one big dragon. What
is the last book you read?
Carry The One by Carol Anshaw.
I wasn’t familiar with that one, so I looked it up – the story of a
group of friends after they hit and kill a girl on the way home from a wedding.
It sounds intense!
For anyone interested in Jane Was Here, here's a bit about the book:
A mysterious young woman called Jane
appears in a small New England town. She claims a fragmentary memory of growing
up in this place, yet she has never been here before in her life. Searching for
an explanation, she arrives at the unthinkable: that she is somehow connected
to a beautiful girl who disappeared from the town in 1853. Is she recalling a
past life? Jane becomes convinced of it. As she presses onward to find out what
happened in this town over 150 years ago, strange and alarming things begin
happening to some of the town's inhabitants. A thunderhead of karmic justice
gathers over the village as Jane's memories reawaken piece by piece. They carry
her back in time to a long-buried secret, while the townspeople hurtle forward
to a horrific event when past and present fatally collide.
If you’d like to know more about Sarah or would like to buy Jane Was Here
you can find them in a multitude of places:
- Book trailer for Jane Was Here
- Jane Was Here on Facebook
- Follow Sarah on Twitter - @SarahKernochan
- Find Sarah on Goodreads
- Visit the website for Jane Was Here
- Read Sarah's Blog
- Buy Jane Was Here on Amazon or Barnes & Noble
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